Next wave indie stars

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by Rich Kraetsch » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:01 pm

It's fascinating to go back to the first few pages of this thread and see where everyone ended up.

I'd say for the most part, everyone nailed at least one guy/girl who emerged in the last year.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by mlev76 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:37 pm

avengers23 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:38 pm
I look at Beyond, NYWC, Nova Pro, and Limitless cards to find someone in the Northeast indies to find anyone who could be next up, and it's hard to find anyone.
I feel like even though he's been doing Evolve shows, Josh Briggs hasn't quite busted out quite yet. There's very little doubt if he goes by his current trajectory, he'll be in WWE some time in the next few years.

I believe some of these guys got previous mention, but a few guys I've really liked this year have been Kobe Durst, Jake Parnell, Kevin Lee Davidson and Craig Mitchell.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by cbacon87 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:15 am

I don't know if he really counts since he's on a company with TV, but from the little I've seen of him in MLW, Kotto Brazil is awesome. Seems like he's done some EVOLVE shots, but besides that, he hasn't hit the super indies, yet.

I also don't know if Robbie X really counts, because it's not like he's new, but he was one of the clear standouts on World Of Sport. Who knows what the situation with contracts and stuff is going to end up being, but he seems an obvious guy for a RevPro or a PROGRESS to start booking if they can. I like Justin Sysum too, but he seems more of a WWE/Impact signing than someone a RevPro or PROGRESS crowd is going to get into.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by SuperplexlariatBW » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:19 am

From what I keep hearing people say there are even more names from the indies and other promotions who are WWE bound in the next few months. No idea who else is going other than Punishment Martinez, but it really sounds the non-WWE scene is going to be suffering even more blows in the next 2-4 months. The indie scene better start getting the acts together in trying to find the new wave of stars. The scene already lost Keith Lee and Matt Riddle in recent months and now it looks like there's even more departures coming. Plus, Janela is out of action for the foreseeable future.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by rovert » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:50 am

One person who needs to break away from CZW and DJ Hyde is female trainee Leyla Hirsch. Crazy athletic.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by mlev76 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:02 pm

In a way, I feel like the indies have been afraid to push guys who weren't WWE prospects over the past few years and now, they're hurting because of it. I think there's two ways for indies to continue to thrive: one, push the whacky semi-freak show acts (PCO, Marko Stunt, etc.) who can go while also elevating guys who may not be on the WWE radar. You watch Freelance, BLP, St.Louis Anarchy or the SCI and you see a lot of talent that could be used in the main event or even semi-main event slots if given the shot. With so many promotions already in the mix Mania weekend, this may be the time for a lot of talent to step up.

Speaking of which, a good way of elevating talent would be to follow the model of this past Sunday's Beyond show even at the risk of being labeled copycats.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by SuperplexlariatBW » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:28 pm

mlev76 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:02 pm
In a way, I feel like the indies have been afraid to push guys who weren't WWE prospects over the past few years and now, they're hurting because of it. I think there's two ways for indies to continue to thrive: one, push the whacky semi-freak show acts (PCO, Marko Stunt, etc.) who can go while also elevating guys who may not be on the WWE radar. You watch Freelance, BLP, St.Louis Anarchy or the SCI and you see a lot of talent that could be used in the main event or even semi-main event slots if given the shot. With so many promotions already in the mix Mania weekend, this may be the time for a lot of talent to step up.

Speaking of which, a good way of elevating talent would be to follow the model of this past Sunday's Beyond show even at the risk of being labeled copycats.
I don't think the groups that you named will be effected by what's going on. They're the ones who actually get it. The ones that are going to have problems are all these PWG knockoff types that focus on the same style, attracting the same type of fans and loading up shows with the same 20 or so hardcore fan darlings.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by mlev76 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:06 pm

SuperplexlariatBW wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:28 pm
mlev76 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:02 pm
In a way, I feel like the indies have been afraid to push guys who weren't WWE prospects over the past few years and now, they're hurting because of it. I think there's two ways for indies to continue to thrive: one, push the whacky semi-freak show acts (PCO, Marko Stunt, etc.) who can go while also elevating guys who may not be on the WWE radar. You watch Freelance, BLP, St.Louis Anarchy or the SCI and you see a lot of talent that could be used in the main event or even semi-main event slots if given the shot. With so many promotions already in the mix Mania weekend, this may be the time for a lot of talent to step up.

Speaking of which, a good way of elevating talent would be to follow the model of this past Sunday's Beyond show even at the risk of being labeled copycats.
I don't think the groups that you named will be effected by what's going on. They're the ones who actually get it. The ones that are going to have problems are all these PWG knockoff types that focus on the same style, attracting the same type of fans and loading up shows with the same 20 or so hardcore fan darlings.
My point in naming those was not that I think they'll be affected, but rather, they have a lot of talent that the larger, more "super-indie" promotions can draw from to replenish their ranks. I think in many cases, those named book men and women who may not be on the WWE radar and may not be for a very long time/ever. There are good solid hands that should start getting those opening opportunities.

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Re: Next wave indie stars

Post by Tim_dawg » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:06 pm

I'm gonna take a victory lap right now.

A while back I wrote the article "California and Nevada wrestlers to keep an eye on". Well GCW just announced Jungle Boy(who I feel is the best prospect in California) for the LA show this weekend. Fatu is also on that show, and he has been working in The Crash reciently. Both guys have a chance to break out this weekend.

In the LA dojo two of the four young lions were on my list. Karl Fredricks and Buddy Garcia (formerly Buddy Royal). You can check them out in the latest Shibata California documentary(I'll post below.

What's cool for me personally is all four guys got their start in my hometown promotion, All Pro Wrestling.


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