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Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:10 am
by BackLash
I've never enjoyed Ciampa in NXT as much as I did in RoH. He was a good mid-card talent who could have been a main eventer in RoH if he stayed. With his unique look and crazy demeanor, he made an awesome heel and an ok face,

Re: Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:38 am
by DylanWaco
Maybe the poster boy for ROH failure. I know he was over there at times, but he never seemed like a guy they fully got, and he's exploded in terms of showing what he can do and the adaptability of his skillset since leaving. I won't vote for him but that's more of an indictment of ROH than it is of him.

Re: Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:39 pm
by luchaundead
I watched ROH's 1st show and was interested enough to keep track of the promo but didn't completely commit to watching every show as soon as it came out. The buzz around Paul London sparked my interest and led to me being all in on ROH. When I had a lull in my fandom Tommaso Ciampa brought me back.

Happening upon Ciampa on ROH’s youtube as a member of The Embassy. The Dominant male instantly dominated my focus as I searched out any matches of his I could find. Ciampa had a fire and aggression that was missing in almost every other wrestler ROH or otherwise of the time. Ciampa seemed to be mired in the undercard always delivering great performances but, never being given much to sink his teeth into. The whole time Ciampa was training and working on his promos cutting them for his personal youtube hyping up indie dates and feuds. Ciampa watched as guys that we was contemporaries of started to move up as he was out with a knee injury. Finally on his return ROH seemed to finally put some steam behind him and Ciampa hit the ground running like a blazing supernova he ran threw Matt Taven and his entire entourage ending what was at the time the longest TV title reign in company history. For was the first and what would feel like the only time ROH was all in on Ciampa it would seem. Ciampa always over delivered in-ring and on the mic as he seemed to be on a war path heading towards the ROH world title. Ciampa’s character was tweaked a little from just a mad man in the ring but also mentally unstable outside of it as well. This was the biggest bump in the road of Ciampa’s career and what I feel lead to his eventual departure as Michael Elgin’s real life issues with the company mirrored his storyline ones too closely and started to muddy the waters of Ciampa’s angle. Elgin and Ciampa had a good match Death Before Dishonor XII but, it wasn’t even their best match with each other. Following the Elgin vs Ciampa feud they started to team and work other random matches all the while a soon to be departing Kevin Steen repeatedly talking about just how good Ciampa is and how he’s being under used. Ciampa went on to really muddle around the mid-card and be in a World title 4-way at the 13th Anniversary that had such an over booked finish that it seemed to start the backlash toward ROH booking that still resonates today.

Tommaso Ciampa for long periods of time was not just my favorite ROH wrestler by my favorite wrestler period unfortunately too much of his best work was outside of ROH for him to be a clear but top 25 guy to me he’s easily going to make it on the ballot because everything he did in-ring and out always had me fully invested. All this said and I barely mentioned he is a fantastic wrestler having a passion for the business that comes through in intensity and unique offense that he seems to invent himself or pick up from all over the world. The question about Ciampa isn’t if he’s on the list but if ROH stop/start pushes and unfocused booking costs him a place in the top 25.

Re: Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:17 pm
by tjhawke411
Ciampa basically encapsulate why it's so hard to take modern ROH all that seriously in terms of top 10-15 places on the list. He worked the whole time, produced a handful of solid matches, but it's completely undermined by the very high number of forgettable and average matches. Can't imagine an ROH Top 100 with him in it at all.

Re: Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:52 pm
by InYourCase
Echo what Dylan said. I thought he was going to be the guy. Thought he'd beat Elgin and go onto be the ace of ROH and none of that happened. Don't think he can find his way onto my list but I love his matches vs. Elgin.

Re: Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:12 pm
by DXvsNWO
InYourCase wrote:Echo what Dylan said. I thought he was going to be the guy. Thought he'd beat Elgin and go onto be the ace of ROH and none of that happened. Don't think he can find his way onto my list but I love his matches vs. Elgin.
Agreed. I thought he was going to be a lot bigger than he was, and I thought he had a really good shot at being a future ROH World Champion. 2013 was his best year in ROH, in my opinion. To me, he just felt like he had a ton of momentum returning from injury, and he ended that year on a high note when he destroyed the "Hoopla-Era" House of Truth to win the ROH World TV Title. Then it just went slowly downhill from there...

Re: Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:33 pm
by Lawsoncomedy
DXvsNWO wrote:
InYourCase wrote:Echo what Dylan said. I thought he was going to be the guy. Thought he'd beat Elgin and go onto be the ace of ROH and none of that happened. Don't think he can find his way onto my list but I love his matches vs. Elgin.
Agreed. I thought he was going to be a lot bigger than he was, and I thought he had a really good shot at being a future ROH World Champion. 2013 was his best year in ROH, in my opinion. To me, he just felt like he had a ton of momentum returning from injury, and he ended that year on a high note when he destroyed the "Hoopla-Era" House of Truth to win the ROH World TV Title. Then it just went slowly downhill from there...

I also expected a lot of these things. Don't know why ROH never did get behind him, but he won't rank as high as he could've.

Re: Tommaso Ciampa

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:16 pm
by BradPTBN
InYourCase wrote:Echo what Dylan said. I thought he was going to be the guy. Thought he'd beat Elgin and go onto be the ace of ROH and none of that happened. Don't think he can find his way onto my list but I love his matches vs. Elgin.
I'm with you and hate to be dismissive of him because of that booking decision (which I agree was awful). What could have been with another year or two of matches (he finished with under 100 and the TV title stint). He's falling into a bucket of SBG era guys where it's doubtful all will make it (Taven, ACH are two others), but he's still in the hunt for me.